[Editors Note: All comments by me are in italics...there are comments from the original document by that author (unknown ancestry member). There was only one daughter of
Sir Simon de Furneaux, namely Elizabeth
de Furneaux (according to everything I've found in Ancestry)
but…the author of the following says someone named Jane Furneaux was her/his 14th great grandmother…daughter of Simon de Furneaux.
As you may have already noticed, I do find fault with many details in the records I'm quoting, so this is just another one, until I find some "Primary Sources" which are birth, death, marriage records usually.
Elizabeth is listed in various places as born 1230…and she was called Dame Furenaux, which sounds a bit like Jane…but there just was the one surviving daughter of Sir Simon, upon which all this lineage may be based, rather than this Jane. It’s interesting reading, though there may be some typos. Please note he uses Ap. to mean approximate dates.]
but…the author of the following says someone named Jane Furneaux was her/his 14th great grandmother…daughter of Simon de Furneaux.
As you may have already noticed, I do find fault with many details in the records I'm quoting, so this is just another one, until I find some "Primary Sources" which are birth, death, marriage records usually.
Elizabeth is listed in various places as born 1230…and she was called Dame Furenaux, which sounds a bit like Jane…but there just was the one surviving daughter of Sir Simon, upon which all this lineage may be based, rather than this Jane. It’s interesting reading, though there may be some typos. Please note he uses Ap. to mean approximate dates.]
Jane Furneaux (Trivett) [sic] is my 14th
Great Grandmother, Her father was Simon DeFurneaux born ap 1294, and her mother
was Alice DeUmfreville born ap 1306.
Simon’s father was Matthew DeFurneaux 2nd
born ap 1264, his mother was Matilda Maud DeRalgh born Ap 1268.
Matthew 2nd’s father was Matthew DeFureneaux
1st born Ap 1211, his mother unknown at this time but born Ap 1237
Matthew 1st’s father was Henry
DeFurnellis born Ap 1150, his mother was Joan FitzWilliam Born Ap 1158.
Joan’s father was Robert FitzWilliam born
1132 this is where story begins.
Robert was the only Son of Sir William
FitzRobert 2nd Earl of Gloucester, Title at that time would only be
handed down to living sons, Robert Died before William, and he only had one
Child a daughter Joan, Title not be past to her, so it would have gon back to
the Crown, William and King Henry 2nd made a marriage arrangement,
that one of his daughter’s would marry one of King Henry 2nd ‘s
Son’s, at the time John was the third son, and was not expected to be King, so
William let his daughter Isabel marry John with Church permission as they were
2nd Cousin’s.
So this would make John Earl of Gloucester, when William
Died. No Children were reported from this Allice and John just before he came
King anode this marriage.
We know go back to Sir William and see how
he is Related to them.
William’s father was Sir Robert De Caen an Illegitimate
son of Henry 1st of England.
thus ½ brothers to Empress Matilda.
Look up your history and you will see him
and what role, he played in shaping the royal’s.
On the father’s side, we will follow the
King’s back from here.
We know go back to Jane Furneaux born Ap
1329
Jane’s Mother was Alice DeUmfeville father
was Henry DeUmfeville born Ap 1267 her mother was Isabella unknown surname born
Ap 1227
Henry’s father was John de Umferville born
Ap 1240. His mother was Alice de le Hurne born Ap 1244.
This is where this side of the family
start. I am starting with the mother Alice de le Hurne
Alice’s father was John de le Hurne born Ap 1214, her mother was Margaret
FitzJohn.
Margaret’s father was Richard Fitzroy born
Ap 1190, her mother was Rohsia De Dover born Ap 1188.
Richard was the Illegitimate son of King
John 1st of England
and John’s Cousin Adela Susann De Warenne mother.
King John’s father Henry 2nd of England
King Henry 2nd father being
Geoffrey V Plantagenet, his mother was Empress Matilda Countess of Anjou.
With this we go back to Henry 1st
of England
as Matilda is his only Child left.
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We know [now] go on to finding out who
[how] we our [are] related to Thomas the Beckett
Again we go back to Jane Furneaux
We go to her father’s side.
Simon’s mother was Matilda Maud deRaiegh
born Ap 1268
Matilda’s father was Warin deRalegh born Ap
1245 her mother was Joanna de Boteler (Botiller) born Ap 1245
Just a quick note for the DeRalegh family
this is the same family as the Sir Walter Ralegh
Joanna’s father was Theobald le Botiller
3rd born Ap 1220 her mother was Margaret deBurgh born Ap 1230
Theobald 3rd ‘s father Theobald le Botiller
2nd born Ap 1200 his mother
was Joan deMarisco born ap 1202
Theobald
2nd ‘s father was Theobald 1st Baron Butler Fitz
Walter born Ap 1160 mother was Maud Baroness Butler leVavasour born Ap 1178.
Theobald 1st’s father was Hervey
Walter (Fitz) born 1130 his mother Matilda deValoines
Hervey’s father was Walter FitzWalter born
Ap 1100 his mother was Godiva leBecket born ap 1110
Godiva is the sister of Thomas the Becket.
How are we related to Diana
Frances Spencer ?
Start at Jane Furneaux
Jane
then her sister Elizabeth
Furneaux born Ap 1329 [Yes, there is the only child Elizabeth! Who knows how
they came up with Jane!]
Her Son John FitzRogers born 1386 &
Wife Anges Mordaunt born Ap 1390
They [their] Son John FitzRogers born 1425
& Wife Anne de Echingham born Ap 1420
They Son Henry Sir of Bryanstone Rogers
born 1st Mar 1448 & Wife Amy Stourton Born 1457
They Son Sir John of Bryanston Rogers born
Ap 1468 & Wife Elizabeth Courtenay born 1470
They Son Sir John of Bryanston Rogers Born 1510 & Wife
Katherine Weston born 1514
They Son Sir Richard Of Bryanston Rogers
born Ap 1527, & Wife Cecilia Luttrel
born 1523
They Daughter Honora Rogers born 1545 & Husband
Lord Edward Beauchamp Seymour Born 1561
They Son William 2nd Duke of
Sumerset Seymour born 1 Sep 1587 and Wife Lady Frances Devereux born 1599
They Son Baron Henry Beauchamp Seymour born
1626 & Wife Mary Capell born 1630
They Daughter Lady Elizabeth Seymour born
1653 & Husband Thomas Bruce born 1656
They Daughter Lady Elizabeth of Elgin Bruce
& Husband Earl George 3rd of Cardigan Brudenell born 1685
They Son Robert Hon Brudenell born 2oth Sep
1726 & Wife Anne Bishop born 1728
They Son Robert 6th Earl of
Cardigan Brudenell born 1769 & Wife
Penelope Anne Cooke born 1770
They Daughter Lady Anne Brudenell born 1795
& Husband George Charles Bingham
Born 1800
They Son George 4th Earl Bingham
born 1830 & Wife Cecilia Catherine
Gordon Lennox born 1838
They Daughter lady Rosealind Cecilia
Caroline Bingham born 1869 & Husband James Albert Edward Hamilton born 1869
They Daughter Lady Cynthia Elinor Beatrix
Hamilton born 1897 & Husband Albert Edward John Spencer born 1892
They Son Edward John Spencer born 1924
& Wife Frances Ruth Burke Roche born 1936
They Daughter is Diana Frances Spencer
To the Queen
Queen mother Elizabeth Angela Bowes Lyon
Her father Claude George 14th
Earl Strathmore Bowes-Lyon born 1855
His father Claude Bowes-Lyon born 1824
His father Thomas George Bowes-Lyon born
1801
His Thomas Bowes-Lyon born 1773
His mother Mary Eleonore Bowers Born 1749
Her father Goerge Bowes born 1701
His mother Elizabeth Blakiston
Her mother Anne Bowes born 1634
Her father George Bowes born 1594
His father George Bowes
His mother Dorothy Mallory born 1529
Her father Sir Willliam Mallory
His father
Sir John Mallory born 1473
His mother Joan Constable
Her father Sir John 11 Constable born 1423
His mother Margaret de Umfreville born 1361
Her father Thomas 2nd Baron de
Umferville born 1361
His father Thomas 1st Baron de
Umferville born 1321
His father Robert 3rd Earl de
Umfreville born 1277
His father Gilbert de Umfreville born 1244
His father Gilbert de Umfreville born 1213
Then his Son John, his son Henry his
daughter Alice and her daughter Jane Furneaux born 1329
[or Elizabeth born 1329 or 30]
But don’t take my word for it, because as I
posted the other day, Elizabeth was either born when her mother died, or the
year after…as some records give 1330 as her birth. And she is listed as giving
birth at the age of 56 to Sir John Rogers according to Ancestry records (which I posted last
week.)
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